On The Daniel Stih Podcast, I have an episode that talks about why some believe viruses don’t exist and coVid is a hoax. Their main principle for believing a virus does not exist is that a virus has not been isolated outside of a host.
Thinking about the idea "a virus has never been isolated by itself”, an analogy to mold mycotoxins came to mind. When penicillium was discovered it was a long time (decades I believe) before it was available as a medicine as they couldn’t find a way to “isolate” the toxin from the mold.
There’s a lot of misinformation about mycotoxins in the mold illness community. Many don’t understand you won’t have mycotoxins in your home independent of having mold. Some think they need to capture, filter, treat mycotoxins as that’s what’s making them sick. In fact it’s not possible to have mold mycotoxins without also having mold - physical fragments of mold.
If you isolate a mycotoxin by itself, certain toxins, if you take them, you would get sick. That's why the FDA has certain foods tested for aflatoxins.
If you were to isolate mold from mycotoxins, you might have some who don't react to the mold. Then you might conclude it's the mycotoxins that make people sick from mold. That would not be a logical conclusion. And this is where the terrain theory holds its weight in the equation. You need them both.
It assumed if you isolate - separate - mold and toxins, you can do the germ theory type of experiment. The home is the terrain - the moldy home - not the mycotoxins nor the mold spores. With a moldy home, a mold contaminated indoor environment, you don't know it's the mold or the mycotoxin that made someone sick or something else. Nobody knows. This continues to be something that, no matter how much it is studied, if anything they've concluded, it's not mold, rather it’s the presence of “water damage.”
What is known is it is something associated with water damage. Is it an allergen, a toxin, a VOC, an MVOC, a protozoa, amoeba, some kind of other critter, ant, termite poop, something, all mixed together. Then you add people's genetic factors, the amount of these substances, the amount mixed together in a recipe relative to individual susceptibility and how long they've lived in the house, etc., etc. It’s a mystery. It’s complex. The terrain is the moldy house.
Consider a virus. Some say it hasn’t been proven to exist as we haven't isolated a virus by itself. What if it's not the virus that makes people sick? There is still something that's responsible for making people sick, in addition to the factor of how healthy they are. What else is coming along with that virus - something that is not the “terrain” of the body, rather something else associated with the presence of the virus. What other recipe parts required?
It’s limited thinking maybe on the part of the doctors and scientists to think it's as simple as we isolate a virus and you get sick or not. And limited thinking to suggest it’s the mycotoxins that make people sick when they are exposed to mold.